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HP 17BII+ Financial Calculator

HP 17BII+ Financial Calculator


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Brand: Hewlett-Packard

List Price: $129.99
Buy New: $75.00
You Save: $54.99 (42%)



New (39) Used (4) from $62.99

Rating: 3.0 out of 5 stars 79 reviews

Format: Cd
Color: Gry/ Blk
Media: Electronics
Autographed: No
Memorabilia: No
Batteries Included: No
Operating System: Windows
Size: 17bii, hp 17bii, 17b, business calculators
Shipping Weight (lbs): 2
Dimensions (in): 3.1 x 5.8 x 0.6

MPN: F2234A
Model: F2234A
UPC: 492410746423
EAN: 0808736628204
ASIN: B0000CAQ0C

Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days

Features:
  • 2-line by 22-character LCD
  • Over 250 built-in functions
  • List-based cash flow analysis
  • Alpha and numeric keyboard
  • HP Solve customizing method

Accessories:

  • How to use a pocket calculator: A guide for students and teachers
  • Calculus Concepts: An Informal Approach to the Mathematics of Change-Graphing Calculator Keystroke Guide

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Editorial Reviews:

Amazon.com Product Description
Designed with real-estate, business, and finance professionals in mind, the HP 17bII+ financial calculator provides RPN or algebraic data-entry modes and over 250 easy-to-use functions. Its two-line, 22-character display is easy to read, offering convenient menus and prompts, plus clock and calendar.

Free Online Training
Make the most of your HP calculator with free online training. First, visit http://www.hp.com/calculators/educators.html for Learning Modules, which are online self-paced training lessons that you control. Second, visit http://www.hp.com/calculators/training/virtual_classroom.html to register for Virtual Courses that are conducted by experienced instructors who can answer your questions. Third, click below to take an interactive Product Tour and learn about the rich features this calculator offers.

Take a Product Tour
this calculator in action

Getting down to business, the 17bII+ provides TMV and amortization features plus list-based, cash-flow analysis, currency conversions, depreciation and percentage calculations, interest rate conversions, bond price and yield calculations, and more. Statistical/mathematical features include correlation forecasting (linear, logarithmic, exponential, and power) and deviation calculations, just to name a few.

The HP 17bII+ financial calculator has a built-in memory of 28K and power-off memory protection. It offers your choice of German, French, English, Spanish, Italian, or Portuguese language operation and a one-year warranty.

What's in the Box
Calculator, batteries, user guide, leather carrying case, instructions, warranty information

Product Description
The HP-17BII+ is aimed squarely at students and professionals in real estate, finance and business. Complex transactions demand a calculator like this -- powerful and easy to use! Clock with alarms Dimensions - 5.71H x 3.19W x 0.58D


Customer Reviews:   Read 74 more reviews...

3 out of 5 stars An acceptable and unimpressive HP upgrade   December 23, 2004
Let it Be (Singapore)
105 out of 109 found this review helpful

I have purchased for myself, the HP17bII+ (call it 17B2+), a new toy, for work, leisure and experimentation during the X'mas holidays.

MY FIRST OUT OF BOX IMPRESSION,is sadly,that HP has really compromised the build quality of its financial/business calculator range by outsourcing its manufacturing to OEMs.

Cosmetically, the new sleek case design looks nice but its rubber-plastic(?) feel really softened up and "cheapened" the 17B2+ vis-a-vis its predecessor.

Although "product feel" is very subjective thing but I suppose every faithful HP calculator owner would tell HP that this is PARAMOUNT to their continued patronage of the HP financial calculator line.

The handsome leather-like carrying case which accompanies the HP17B+ package won't make it look as professional as the solidly built as the 17bII or the rival made TI BA2+ professional, nevertheless it is a welcomed bundle.

MAJOR HARDWARE IMPROVEMENT of the LCD DISPLAY is a welcomed upgrade, the new display is generous contrasty and clearly viewable from all angles. The other stated hardware improvement though hardly noticeable to the normal user is the upgrade of memory to 28k.

FUNCTIONAL IMPROVEMENTS include mainly the CURRX foreign exchange conversion function, it is the only nice to have addition, although experienced users would tell you that this is not really essential.

RPN MODE on the 17B2+ is IMHO not as good as the HP12c perhaps due to its vertical form factor and button design. The key is smaller than the HP12C/12c Platinum on the and also certain functions like power ^ has to be accessed via the shift key.

BUTTONs on the HP17b2+ are tacit but has a very "plastic" feel, it makes you question why the old HP17bII buttons were not retained.

HP SOLVE is still the best reason and a HP niche to retain HP 17bII users to this HP line of business calculators. Still, this is the best reason to buy the HP17b series.

ONLINE HP USER SUPPORT is IMHO the best in its class, [...] has most of the answers to your HP17b2+ questions.

OVERALL, the 17b2+ is an acceptable but rather unimpressive upgrade from HP, perhaps it is why it is not called HP17bIII or version 3.

This calculator is not "cheap" in dollar terms either. While HP had probably kept its' shareholders happy and executives fed while profiting from old proven product designs, it should, in my opinion, start to think hard on making us, their customers happier.

A young colleague of mine owns a minty 17bII but I doubt she would sell it, her dad had retired and had given his 17bII to her and that, is a testimony of how good the quality of HP calculators used to be.

Thank you for reading my user review of the HP 17b2+.




1 out of 5 stars HP quality is a thing of the past.   October 16, 2003
36 out of 42 found this review helpful

Purchased the HP17BII+ through Amazon at a fair price but found the calculator to be cheaply made. HP has in the past set the standard for quality and style but this is no longer the case. The quest for bigger profit margins over quality will soon kill the once fabled reputation of this firm.


5 out of 5 stars Seems very sturdy to me   March 17, 2005
Clemons (Tokyo)
24 out of 24 found this review helpful

I have a financial calculator fetish. I own the HP 17BII, the HP 10BII, the TI BAII Plus, as well as the powerOne Financial Palm software that is a software superset of all these calculators. The Palm software is hard to beat if you carry a Palm around anyway, but the problem is the Palm isn't an instant-on device like a calculator. So the HP 17BII has been my favorite everyday calculator.

When I saw the baby brother to the 17BII+, the 10BII, in K-Mart, of all places, I bought it. I was shocked at how flimsy it was compared to the old 17BII. The keys would click but the input wouldn't register (much like the TI calculators). Then the upper-righthand button (FV/Amort) got to where it wouldn't work at all unless you hit it with extreme pressure. Finally, the righthand digit in the LCD went half blank and wouldn't display. I noticed that the same problems were present in a 10BII demonstrator at Office Depot. The 10BII is really a piece of trash.

However, when I noticed that the 17BII had a new version, the 17BII+, I ordered it anyway, with extreme trepidation, having read the reviews here and having experienced the 10BII. Although I've only had it for about three months, I am happy to report that it is no 10BII. The form factor is similar, but it is much sturdier and more substantial than the 10BII. The key input seems as reliable as the old 17BII. (As a point of reference the old, built-like-a-tank 17BII weighs 142 g, the 10BII weighs 94 g, and the 17BII+ weighs 128 g. Although the 17BII+ is a little less hefty than the 17BII, it is obviously not the same manufacturing as the flimsy 10BII, despite the same design and size.) Both the 10BII and the 17BII+ are made in China, but the latter has better fit-and-finish.

I think I can safely recommend the 17BII+. It certainly is the best interface for a financial calculator out there, and the build quality is just fine. If I had to quibble, I would say that I would like to have seen the depreciation types updated, and instead of the currency exchange addition, how about a measurements conversion feature? Also, how about Bluetooth instead of the silly infrared connection that I'm sure nobody uses?

As for the criticisms here in the reviews, I don't know what to say ... perhaps there were some early manufacturing problems?



2 out of 5 stars Find the old 17BII. Avoid the 17BII+.   August 19, 2004
Mark Twain (Oakland, CA USA)
18 out of 22 found this review helpful

HP calculators are great and their financial calculators rule the world. The 17BII was a nice upgrade from the 12C calculators that still work fine, even if they are a bit clunky and slow. The 17BII adds menus and programability to make a lot of calculations much easier.

The 17BII+ was supposed to be an improvement. (By the way, who names these things? There is a saying here in Silicon Valley that if HP had invented sushi, they would market it as "raw, dead fish". No kidding.)

In fact, the 17BII+ should be called the 17BII-. It is prettier to look at -- but does not work as well as the old one. All major functions are the same -- but the buttons are funky and the screen is hard to read.

Buy the old one, before they discontinue it altogether.




5 out of 5 stars My Impression on HP 17bii+   December 2, 2003
Walter (Hong Kong)
16 out of 18 found this review helpful

This is my revised review after 1 year of using HP 17bii+. Here are my review:

- RPN & Menu-List Based Entry Method

- Nice and Clear LCD Display - Much better than old 17BII

- Fast computation speed!!

- Nicely built and good looking casing. The new leather pouch is a good addition.

- HP SOLVE: Very Useful and Powerful Tool for solving problem

Cons

- Lacks of Modified Internal Rate of Return (MIRR) built in the CFLO Menu

- Small "ENTER" and "INPUT" Key

- Lacks of LET() and GET() function; even they're not essential to most users, but it's not convenient if you need to key-in your own formula in the calculator.

Conclusion:
It's a good upgrade to the old work horse 17BII even though the new 17bii+ has few drawbacks. I still give it a 5 Star Rating for the improvement.



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