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HP 17BII+ Financial Calculator

HP 17BII+ Financial Calculator
Brand: Hewlett-Packard

List Price: $129.99
Buy New: $72.98
You Save: $57.01 (44%)



New (42) Used (7) Refurbished (2) from $63.99

Rating: 3.0 out of 5 stars 83 reviews

Format: Cd
Platform: Windows
Color: Gry/ Blk
Media: Electronics
Autographed: No
Memorabilia: No
Batteries Included: No
Operating System: Windows
Size: 17bii, hp 17bii, 17b, business calculators
Shipping Weight (lbs): 2
Dimensions (in): 3.1 x 5.8 x 0.6

MPN: F2234A
Model: F2234A
UPC: 492410746423
EAN: 0808736628204
ASIN: B0000CAQ0C

Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days

Customer Reviews:
Showing reviews 6-10 of 83



4 out of 5 stars The best new financial/Business calculator one can buy   May 31, 2004
M. King (Chicago, IL USA)
13 out of 13 found this review helpful

Until a replacement for the HP19BII comes along, this is the best business calculator that can be purchased.

With over a year of near daily use, I remain very pleased with this calculator. I purchased the HP17BII+ despite the unusual number of negative reviews for this model prompted by my many years of experience with the HP19BII.

This is a solid, dependable calculator with intuitive features, unmatched ease of programming in a financial calculator and quality materials.

I've tested both Casio models and the TI business calculators; neither is able to measure up to the standards of the new HP17BII+ in terms of "feel" and ease of use. Anyone who recommends the TIBAII series - even the "Pro" - either has never used the HP17BII+ or believes that you will not be using your business calculator for real business.

The programmability - the ability to enter formulae into the calculator permanently and to solve for any variable is a boon to anyone. Want to run an ROI or break-even formula - just program it into the calculator and it'll be there for you whenever you need it. Need t do simple Chi-square, z-score or MIRR, just plug it in and you've got it at your fingertips. It is puzzling to me why HP does not trumpet the features of their calculators. TI cleans their clock in terms of store presence nearly everywhere - sluffing off calculators with fewer capabilities on generations of calculator buyers. As of this writing, there is no match for the HP17BII+ on the marketplace except PDAs with emulator packages.

The HP 17BII+ does essentially everything that the HP19BII did, but faster and in a smaller footprint. The HP 17BII's long life batteries are far more likely to be found in a store's battery section than those needed for the HP19BII and the extended memory will allow far more custom equations. It is regrettable that HP dropped the random number generator, but again, overall the best financial/business calculator one can buy today. Also - I've had no sticky keys, blank displays or erratic behavior of any kind.

Negatives: The alpha selection display is kind of cumbersome, but once you're done with the program entry, the lack of a separate alpha keyboard makes the calculator much less clunky.

The single line display (HP calls it two line because the bottom of the display contains the menu enunciators) makes it very difficult at first to enter longer programs - only one line at a time can be seen - making trouble shooting tedious.

The "On" key is the same height as the rest of the keys meaning it can be turned on simply by pushing on the case while the calculator is inside - while auto power off will shut off the calculator in ten minutes, one can only hope that you don't experience too many inadvertent power-ons so that your calculator runs out of power at just the wrong time.

Once again - a solid, pleasure of a calculator, and one I'd recommend to anyone in any circumstances who needs a quality programmable financial calculator (my belief is that once you've tried HP Solve on an HP calculator that you'll quickly say that you can't do without it!).



1 out of 5 stars Just if you want to waste your money!   August 3, 2004
L. Hossaka (Detroit, MI)
13 out of 14 found this review helpful

I bought the new 17BII+ as substitution to my 19B, which quit on me after 10+ years. Used to love HP's but these new models are a complete disappointment. The keys don't register, you have to press them down several times. So if you need something you can manipulate quickly, like the old HP, forget it. HP customer service also sucks... the machine would not turn on after a few uses. Took it back to the store 3 times, they fixed it in the beginning, but eventually they gave up. They would not exchange the product though, even being an authorized HP dealer. I had to fedex the machine on my own expense back to a technical assistance so that he could evaluate if the machine really had a problem, before replacing the machine. Two weeks after, they got back to me telling me the machine did not present any problem (sure... maybe the guys at the store and I just dreamt the machine could not be turned on...) and if I want my HP back I have to pay the FEDEX ... Unbelievable, but this is what HP has become. I'll probably stay away from any HP product for a long while, recommend the same if you don't want to waste your money.


3 out of 5 stars Same old   October 2, 2003
Mike Hofmeister
11 out of 11 found this review helpful

This is the same version of the 17B, the only notable differences being a multilingual display, more memory and a semi-useless currency conversion feature. Too bad HP didn't see fit to implement a workable function for calculating the Modified Internal Rate of Return (MIRR). You still have to do it by hand and calculate the NPV and NFV for positive and negative cash flows, which is time consuming and error prone.

If you own the previous model you should feel no compulsion to upgrade. In fact, I wonder why HP even bothered to release this version. Just calling it an improvement doesn't make it so.


1 out of 5 stars Too many defects   October 14, 2003
William B. Craytor (Pacifica, CA United States)
11 out of 11 found this review helpful

Problem 1: Right out of the box, I had problems with the #4 and to a lesser extent the #9 key. You could easily press down the #4 key so that it clicked, without the number registering. The work-around was to press the key extra hard.
Problem 2: After working with the calculator for about a week and entering a number of formulas in the 32M memory, I was unable to get the calculator to turn on one morning. I tried the "machine reset", which didn't help. According to the manual the next step was to do the reset on the back of the calculator. That did the trick - but then all of the formulas entered in memory were lost. During the next two weeks, that happened 3 more times. So, the 32M of memory was basically useless.
Problem 3: I found that after doing extensive TVM and Cash Flow calculations, the 1/x key result would not work correctly in chain calculations (RPN). So, for example pressing #3, #2, x, to get 6 and then pressing 1/x would return .5 instead of .16666. Tried this over and over with diff comps and got the same result. Turned the calculator off and then back on. Problem disappeared. This happened once more ... but the problem is hard to replicate.
Problem 4: When I called hpshopping.com to return the calculator, I was told that I would have to wait at the door all afternoon (1:00PM-6:PM) for fed ex to come out and pick up the calculator. ... No, just sending it back would not work. Unfortunately, my work doesn't allow me to wait around that long anywhere.
Conclusion: Get the old HP 17BII, which is much more robust and better quality. The new HP calculators (like the new HP 12C Platinum) are cheaply built and lack quality control.



5 out of 5 stars Great product!   August 16, 2004
D. K. Latimore (Charlotte, NC United States)
11 out of 13 found this review helpful

I purchased this calculator despite all of the bad reviews that I read. I am glad that I bought it. It works wonderfully. I am assuming that all of the bugs have been worked out. I would highly recommend this calculator.


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